When the sun sets in Los Angeles and the crowd spills out of Dodger Stadium, that’s when the true spirit of Tommy’s Original World Famous Hamburgers comes alive.

While the world sings the praises of In-N-Out, real Angelenos know that this late-night burger temple is the secret handshake, known for its legendary chili burgers and party vibe.

On today’s episode, two of L.A.’s greatest ambassadors—Kogi founder Roy Choi and KCRW radio personality Evan Kleiman—meet up with Alvin to talk shop about what makes Tommy’s the ultimate late-night burger spot.